Post by marlinsgm on Oct 6, 2018 10:22:28 GMT
With the BRHL OOTP deadline having come and past, I wanted to truly break down each and every deal from the last month (minus the small ones that aren't worth talking about). Below are my grades for each team on each trade, as well as a complete breakdown of deadline winners and losers, and grades for those teams. This is Part 3 of the series.
Trade 1:
A's receive:
SP Jordan Montgomery (AAA)
CF Mike Tauchman (AAA)
Rays receive:
SP JA Happ (ML - Currently on DL)
(OAK retain 60% of salary for year 2018 and 2019)
I have to say, I did not expect Jordan Montgomery to be the main piece of a package that brought back a good pitcher. Honestly did not. But TJ was persistent and I think he capitalized here. Not only is Happ signed cheaply the next 3 seasons, but he's pitched quite well this year in real life. Now he will likely regress in either a year or 2, and that 4th year of the contract could be gross, but its likely just one year thats bad. Montgomery had a nice 3.62 ERA this season before tearing his UCL, but his underlying 4.22 FIP is concerning along with his gross 1.35 WHIP. Montgomery is already 25 and has yet to (in my opinion) put together a good major league season and thats scary. Now ZIPS may project him to be useable next year because of his ERA, etc... but long-term I don't see much out of Montgomery. Tauchman had a very similar year to 2017. Ripped up AAA, but couldn't do shit in the majors. At this point, already 27 years old, you have to expect that Tauchman is likely a very good AAAA player.
Grades:
Oakland: D+
If Montgomery is useable next year, this is more of a C-ish type grade. I doubt he is. Maybe as a 4 or 5. Nonetheless, I don't view Montgomery as anything long-term, and I think TJ knows that, hence why he shopped him so hard. Unfortunate that Tim fell for the trick. I want to grade better here but I can't. Theres a chance that Oakland gets absolutely nothing long term from this deal, in an extremely expensive pitching market.
Tampa: A
Ballwashing part 4. TJ crushed this deal. Again, that 4th year of Happ could be ugly, but even then this deal is 1000% worth it. Happ is a legit #3 at the worst in BRHL, and is cheap for the next 2 years thanks to retention. Adding him to Tampa's already solid rotation was just a fantastic move by TJ. We're starting to see a new Kirk-like GM emerge.
Trade 2:
Angels receive:
1B Hanley Ramirez (ML)
(Marlins retain 100% on his remaining contract for 2018)
Marlins receive:
SP Rogelio Armenteros (AAA)
P Braham Rosario (A)
P Manuel Urias (A)
I don't want to spend too long on this deal because A) its mine, and B) its not a big deal. Hanley is a useful, if not pretty good hitter in BRHL and Steph made a good acquisition to get Hanley in a market that did not have many takers. Armenteros has had a decent season at AAA, and is already 24 but doesn't seem to be ready to the bigs. Seems like a back of the rotation arm at best, or more likely, a bullpen arm. Rosario has had a nice year in rookie ball, but is 18, and is completely raw. Same could be said for Urias who had the better year of the two young arms. There is some legit hope for Urias as he was slightly touted before signing with the Phillies in real life, but again, he's only 17 and his success came in rookie ball.
Grades:
Los Angeles: B-
This should probably be a B, but if Urias becomes anything, this will be regrettable deal for Steph. That seems extremely unlikely though, which is why he gets a B-. The Angels came up two complete wild cards and what likely amounts to a bullpen arm or a borderline #5 starter. AKA, they really didn't give up much at all. Adding a nice bat like Hanley into a lineup that can use it, without paying his salary, is a win for any contender.
Miami: B-
I took on Hanley as part of deal, not because I wanted to. I was lucky to be able to turn him into the return I got, even while retaining his entire salary. I am just hoping that Urias or Rosario becomes something useful cause that would be a big W. B- is fair for a return for something I didn't want in the first place.
Trade 3:
Philly receives:
2B Josh Harrison (ML)
(Houston retains 75% of contract for 2018)
Houston receives:
1B Oneil Cruz (AA)
I'm not shocked that Bryce was able to acquire, really the only prospect I liked in Philly's system for Harrison. It's another good job by him. Harrison has bee shit in the MLB in real life, so this is likely just a rental for Anthony. That being said, I don't think it was a major overpay, but probably an overpay. The hitting market, outside of stars like Arenado, was naturally weak. Not a lot of legit talent. Luckily Harrison should be a big upgrade at 2B for Anthony, he just has to hope he plays at the level he can. I think this is a pretty good deal for both teams, as Cruz really burst on to the scene in A-Ball as a 20 year old with a slashline of .286/.343/.488 to go along with 14 big fly's.
Grades:
Philly: B
Not a bad deal for Anthony, but he didn't win this deal. In my opinion he traded his best prospect for what SHOULD be a 1-year rental. If Cruz becomes a legit talent, Anthony will regret it unless he wins it all, but I guess its a risk you have to take. Would have liked to see him try to hold onto Cruz instead though.
Houston: B+
Interim GM Bryce continues to add more prospects to the Houston squad. Moving Harrison this time, who is a good 2B, but it was the right move. I doubt he'll be a well-rated player next year, meaning that Cruz for a half season rental. Bryce wins that deal, but not like he crushed Anthony this time, thankfully.
Trade 4:
A's receive:
OF Greg Allen (AA)
1B Luke Voit (AAA)
2B Dilson Herrera (AAA)
Brewers receive:
CL Craig Kimbrel (ML)
(Oakland retains 100% of Kimbrel's remaining salary)
When this trade first went down, I was laugh my ass of at Tim. This trade looked straight up AWFUL on the surface. However, in the last few weeks, Voit has really emerged as a force for the Yankees in real life, and he looks like the real deal. If that is indeed the case, then Tim not only won this deal, he made us all look stupid. Greg Allen and Dilson Herrera are just names. Neither guy is very good and neither will likely be of much use long-term, but Voit may be. Voit finished 2018 with a ridiculous .322/.398/.671 line with 15 bombs in just 161 total at bats. Wild. Then Voit mashed the Yankees into the playoffs, beating the A's in the wild card game. Lukey has been on fiiiyah, and if he is able to even somewhat resemble this line going forward this is an absolute steal for Tim. However....and a big however, Kimbrel has been very good for Oakland, and has been close to perfect in his 2 outings for Milwaukee. If he continues to pitch well, and win it all, Jonathan will be fine with giving up Voit. Now the only question is, will Jonathan sign him long-term?
Grades:
Oakland: B
I hated this deal at first, but I'm optimistic for Tim here. I really like Voit. Like him more every time I watch him, and clearly Tim agrees. If Voit maintains this production, or even replicates somewhat of what he was doing, Tim will have won this deal hands down. However, there's always a chance that Voit is a 40-game flash in the pan, and he goes back to being crapbag Luke Voit next year. Thats why Oakland gets a B. Huge boom or bust potential.
Milwaukee: B
I mean, if Voit becomes a monster, there's a chance Jonathan will be kicking himself for a long time, but he went out and made the right move for his ballclub. Getting a guy like Kimbrel to set up and close if needed is a massive get, but Jonathan has to make it worth it. His team has to keep winning, get into the playoffs, and go deep, because if Voit is good, this could be one of the most regretted deals he's made.
Trade 5:
Royals receive:
OF Odubel Herrera (ML)
DBacks receive:
OF Raimel Tapia (AAA)
INF Tyler Wade (AAA)
OF Socrates Brito (A)
SP Drew Strotman (A)
This is a very interesting deal from a few perspectives. First, Herrera is a good young player that is locked up for a while in BRHL, however he was absolutely terrible in the second half of the MLB season, so which player is he? Is he a very good young outfielder who is going to be heavily valued, or is he going to be the average OF who had a good half of a season? Either way, I don't think Bryce gave much up here. Tapia is only 24, but can't seem to find success at the major league level. He very much like Mike Tauchman from an earlier deal, has had great success in the Rockies AAA lineup, but cannot find success at the ML level, and thats scary. Tyler Wade is much of the same. He got his shot this year for the Yankees and flopped big time. Guess what Brito did.....THE SAME. Crushed AAA, struggled at the ML level as a 25-year old. Mike badly needs one of these guys to pan in this deal. Just one to be a good major leaguer and he'll be pleased. Strotman might be the best prospect in the entire package, but he also seems like he needs to make some big progressions next year. He did very well in A-ball but he's already 22. He'll need to make some progression ins 2019 if he plans to make the majors before 25, but he had the best year out of everyone in the package for sure.
Grades:
Kansas City: B+
Bryce wins another deal...for now. What did he really trade for a player who had his best statistical season in his short career so far? 3 AAAA players and a lower level 22-year old SP prospect. No matter how bad Herrera was in the second half, he is absolutely worth this gamble.
Arizona: C
Thats what this deal represents for Mike, a complete and utter gamble. If Mike had shopped Herrera around, my guess is he would have gotten a MUCH better package (I know I would have mad ea stronger offer.) I truly hope Mike likes this return because I am very worried he just took on 3 bench players and a low end #3 SP for a potential star CF who's locked up long-term. I am not going to kill Mike just yet though. There's hope that one of Tapia, Brito, or Wade becomes a very good major leaguer, and if more than one does, then Mike wins this deal. But I just don't have faith. I think Wade is pretty terrible, Tapia is a long-term defensive replacement, and Brito is a below average regular that ends up on a Baltimore. And I just don't know what Strotman is. Its a dangerous deal for Mike, truly.
Trade 1:
A's receive:
SP Jordan Montgomery (AAA)
CF Mike Tauchman (AAA)
Rays receive:
SP JA Happ (ML - Currently on DL)
(OAK retain 60% of salary for year 2018 and 2019)
I have to say, I did not expect Jordan Montgomery to be the main piece of a package that brought back a good pitcher. Honestly did not. But TJ was persistent and I think he capitalized here. Not only is Happ signed cheaply the next 3 seasons, but he's pitched quite well this year in real life. Now he will likely regress in either a year or 2, and that 4th year of the contract could be gross, but its likely just one year thats bad. Montgomery had a nice 3.62 ERA this season before tearing his UCL, but his underlying 4.22 FIP is concerning along with his gross 1.35 WHIP. Montgomery is already 25 and has yet to (in my opinion) put together a good major league season and thats scary. Now ZIPS may project him to be useable next year because of his ERA, etc... but long-term I don't see much out of Montgomery. Tauchman had a very similar year to 2017. Ripped up AAA, but couldn't do shit in the majors. At this point, already 27 years old, you have to expect that Tauchman is likely a very good AAAA player.
Grades:
Oakland: D+
If Montgomery is useable next year, this is more of a C-ish type grade. I doubt he is. Maybe as a 4 or 5. Nonetheless, I don't view Montgomery as anything long-term, and I think TJ knows that, hence why he shopped him so hard. Unfortunate that Tim fell for the trick. I want to grade better here but I can't. Theres a chance that Oakland gets absolutely nothing long term from this deal, in an extremely expensive pitching market.
Tampa: A
Ballwashing part 4. TJ crushed this deal. Again, that 4th year of Happ could be ugly, but even then this deal is 1000% worth it. Happ is a legit #3 at the worst in BRHL, and is cheap for the next 2 years thanks to retention. Adding him to Tampa's already solid rotation was just a fantastic move by TJ. We're starting to see a new Kirk-like GM emerge.
Trade 2:
Angels receive:
1B Hanley Ramirez (ML)
(Marlins retain 100% on his remaining contract for 2018)
Marlins receive:
SP Rogelio Armenteros (AAA)
P Braham Rosario (A)
P Manuel Urias (A)
I don't want to spend too long on this deal because A) its mine, and B) its not a big deal. Hanley is a useful, if not pretty good hitter in BRHL and Steph made a good acquisition to get Hanley in a market that did not have many takers. Armenteros has had a decent season at AAA, and is already 24 but doesn't seem to be ready to the bigs. Seems like a back of the rotation arm at best, or more likely, a bullpen arm. Rosario has had a nice year in rookie ball, but is 18, and is completely raw. Same could be said for Urias who had the better year of the two young arms. There is some legit hope for Urias as he was slightly touted before signing with the Phillies in real life, but again, he's only 17 and his success came in rookie ball.
Grades:
Los Angeles: B-
This should probably be a B, but if Urias becomes anything, this will be regrettable deal for Steph. That seems extremely unlikely though, which is why he gets a B-. The Angels came up two complete wild cards and what likely amounts to a bullpen arm or a borderline #5 starter. AKA, they really didn't give up much at all. Adding a nice bat like Hanley into a lineup that can use it, without paying his salary, is a win for any contender.
Miami: B-
I took on Hanley as part of deal, not because I wanted to. I was lucky to be able to turn him into the return I got, even while retaining his entire salary. I am just hoping that Urias or Rosario becomes something useful cause that would be a big W. B- is fair for a return for something I didn't want in the first place.
Trade 3:
Philly receives:
2B Josh Harrison (ML)
(Houston retains 75% of contract for 2018)
Houston receives:
1B Oneil Cruz (AA)
I'm not shocked that Bryce was able to acquire, really the only prospect I liked in Philly's system for Harrison. It's another good job by him. Harrison has bee shit in the MLB in real life, so this is likely just a rental for Anthony. That being said, I don't think it was a major overpay, but probably an overpay. The hitting market, outside of stars like Arenado, was naturally weak. Not a lot of legit talent. Luckily Harrison should be a big upgrade at 2B for Anthony, he just has to hope he plays at the level he can. I think this is a pretty good deal for both teams, as Cruz really burst on to the scene in A-Ball as a 20 year old with a slashline of .286/.343/.488 to go along with 14 big fly's.
Grades:
Philly: B
Not a bad deal for Anthony, but he didn't win this deal. In my opinion he traded his best prospect for what SHOULD be a 1-year rental. If Cruz becomes a legit talent, Anthony will regret it unless he wins it all, but I guess its a risk you have to take. Would have liked to see him try to hold onto Cruz instead though.
Houston: B+
Interim GM Bryce continues to add more prospects to the Houston squad. Moving Harrison this time, who is a good 2B, but it was the right move. I doubt he'll be a well-rated player next year, meaning that Cruz for a half season rental. Bryce wins that deal, but not like he crushed Anthony this time, thankfully.
Trade 4:
A's receive:
OF Greg Allen (AA)
1B Luke Voit (AAA)
2B Dilson Herrera (AAA)
Brewers receive:
CL Craig Kimbrel (ML)
(Oakland retains 100% of Kimbrel's remaining salary)
When this trade first went down, I was laugh my ass of at Tim. This trade looked straight up AWFUL on the surface. However, in the last few weeks, Voit has really emerged as a force for the Yankees in real life, and he looks like the real deal. If that is indeed the case, then Tim not only won this deal, he made us all look stupid. Greg Allen and Dilson Herrera are just names. Neither guy is very good and neither will likely be of much use long-term, but Voit may be. Voit finished 2018 with a ridiculous .322/.398/.671 line with 15 bombs in just 161 total at bats. Wild. Then Voit mashed the Yankees into the playoffs, beating the A's in the wild card game. Lukey has been on fiiiyah, and if he is able to even somewhat resemble this line going forward this is an absolute steal for Tim. However....and a big however, Kimbrel has been very good for Oakland, and has been close to perfect in his 2 outings for Milwaukee. If he continues to pitch well, and win it all, Jonathan will be fine with giving up Voit. Now the only question is, will Jonathan sign him long-term?
Grades:
Oakland: B
I hated this deal at first, but I'm optimistic for Tim here. I really like Voit. Like him more every time I watch him, and clearly Tim agrees. If Voit maintains this production, or even replicates somewhat of what he was doing, Tim will have won this deal hands down. However, there's always a chance that Voit is a 40-game flash in the pan, and he goes back to being crapbag Luke Voit next year. Thats why Oakland gets a B. Huge boom or bust potential.
Milwaukee: B
I mean, if Voit becomes a monster, there's a chance Jonathan will be kicking himself for a long time, but he went out and made the right move for his ballclub. Getting a guy like Kimbrel to set up and close if needed is a massive get, but Jonathan has to make it worth it. His team has to keep winning, get into the playoffs, and go deep, because if Voit is good, this could be one of the most regretted deals he's made.
Trade 5:
Royals receive:
OF Odubel Herrera (ML)
DBacks receive:
OF Raimel Tapia (AAA)
INF Tyler Wade (AAA)
OF Socrates Brito (A)
SP Drew Strotman (A)
This is a very interesting deal from a few perspectives. First, Herrera is a good young player that is locked up for a while in BRHL, however he was absolutely terrible in the second half of the MLB season, so which player is he? Is he a very good young outfielder who is going to be heavily valued, or is he going to be the average OF who had a good half of a season? Either way, I don't think Bryce gave much up here. Tapia is only 24, but can't seem to find success at the major league level. He very much like Mike Tauchman from an earlier deal, has had great success in the Rockies AAA lineup, but cannot find success at the ML level, and thats scary. Tyler Wade is much of the same. He got his shot this year for the Yankees and flopped big time. Guess what Brito did.....THE SAME. Crushed AAA, struggled at the ML level as a 25-year old. Mike badly needs one of these guys to pan in this deal. Just one to be a good major leaguer and he'll be pleased. Strotman might be the best prospect in the entire package, but he also seems like he needs to make some big progressions next year. He did very well in A-ball but he's already 22. He'll need to make some progression ins 2019 if he plans to make the majors before 25, but he had the best year out of everyone in the package for sure.
Grades:
Kansas City: B+
Bryce wins another deal...for now. What did he really trade for a player who had his best statistical season in his short career so far? 3 AAAA players and a lower level 22-year old SP prospect. No matter how bad Herrera was in the second half, he is absolutely worth this gamble.
Arizona: C
Thats what this deal represents for Mike, a complete and utter gamble. If Mike had shopped Herrera around, my guess is he would have gotten a MUCH better package (I know I would have mad ea stronger offer.) I truly hope Mike likes this return because I am very worried he just took on 3 bench players and a low end #3 SP for a potential star CF who's locked up long-term. I am not going to kill Mike just yet though. There's hope that one of Tapia, Brito, or Wade becomes a very good major leaguer, and if more than one does, then Mike wins this deal. But I just don't have faith. I think Wade is pretty terrible, Tapia is a long-term defensive replacement, and Brito is a below average regular that ends up on a Baltimore. And I just don't know what Strotman is. Its a dangerous deal for Mike, truly.